ABA
Appliance
White Film
on Dishes, inside dishwasher, and dishes not getting clean
*if you have a Bosch Dishwasher, click
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The white film
that is being left on your dishes, is due to TOO MUCH
Detergent, NOT to Calcium or Hard Water, or the lack of
Phosphates!!!, Due to the Manufacturers Increasing the
Concentration of the detergent, by 4-6 times, what it
was a year ago. The ONLY thing that the lack of phosphates
has caused, is that is NOW IMPERATIVE to have HOT enough
water, to dissolve the detergent properly...a MINIMUM
of 120 degrees! The reason: All of this is due to the
Eco push, trying to decrease the number of detergent containers
being thrown into the landfills...Problem is: They are
NOT Labeling the dishwasher detergent, with the 2X, 3X,
4X, ..6X, that they are increasing it by, like they are
on the clothes washing detergent(look at the clothes washer
detergent label...2X and UP to 6X!) The prepackaged detergents
are even WORSE, about 10 times too much sudsing, due to
adding the Jet Dry in with the detergent! Jet Dry sudses
up, and it is NOT meant to be dispensed during the wash
cycle, along with the detergent! It is a RINSE AID, that
dispenses from the jet dry dispenser, in THE RINSE cycle,
NOT the wash cycle! These detergent manufacturers are
WELL AWARE of what they are doing....they are deceiving
the public, by not telling them the detergent is Dramatically
More Concentrated in the last year...so they can keep
selling as much and making as much money as they were
before. If they tell the public, then sales will go way
down, on number of containers, because the Drastically
increased concentrations will Last Much Longer, up to
6x longer! The build up is like concrete when detergent
dries, and is extremely hard to get off dishes and is
even worse on the dishwasher. There is a cleaner that
they also came out with at the same time they increased
the concentration, called DishwasherMagic, which is required
if the buildup is severe...Vinegar is NOT strong enough
to eat through all the layers of dried up detergent(like
concrete). Once you get the dishwasher back to normal
condition, using 2-3 bottles, possibly up to 18 bottles
it took one of my customers, to get all the layers of
detergent out of the inside of the pump and tubing. One
bottle will clean out the interior, but don't let that
deceive you...inside the pump, where you can't see it,
it is like our arteries clog up, layer after layer, up
to 20 or so layers, which the cleaner only is able to
dissolve about a layer or 2 of at a time.
DO
NOT USE ANYTHING IN THE DISHWASHER THAT YOU WOULDN'T DRINK,
LIKE CLR, OR DRAINO OR ANYTHING ELSE CAUSTIC...IT'S RESIDUE
CAN END UP ON THE DISHES IN FOLLOWING WASHES, CAUSING
SICKNESS OR POISONING, OR DEATH!
After getting
the dishwasher cleaned out, you need to start running
the water at the sink, UNTIL it is HOT, THEN start the
dishwasher...the heater in the dishwasher is Not like
a coffee pot heater, that heats from cold to hot...it
is ONLY an assist for maybe 10 degrees or so...the water
at the sink when you first turn on the hot water, is like
the shower, it can take awhile, so you end up with 70
or so water in the dishwasher, and it takes a MINIMUM
of 120 degrees to dissolve detergent! Run the Hot water
at the sink before starting the dishwasher, just cover
the bottom of the detergent dispenser ..no more filling
to a certain line or all the way, it's about a tablespoon
now, and keep jet dry in the dispenser. If you follow
this closely, and get it cleaned out first totally, and
run the water until hot at the sink, cover the bottom
of the dispenser only with detergent, and use jet dry,
you will be able to invite your friends back, as your
dishes will be spotless again! I deal with this every
day with customers, and have never had to, for 30 years
in the repair business, until these bozos raised the concentration,
and are NOT Labeling the dishwasher detergent with the
2X, 3X, 4X, ...6X, that they have raised it to! There
really needs to be a class action lawsuit, due to Millions
of people having RUINED their dishes with the rock hard
detergent that is Almost impossible to get off, without
hours of scrubbing it off, and the Millions of service
calls we have now, due to this problem they caused, with
ignorance and greed!! Yes, Vinegar might work in mild
cases, but it is NOT strong enough to deal with the severe
cases...that is only going to get resolved by using Dishwasher
Magic! Good Luck! Be Patient, it will work!
Mike
Owner of ABA Appliance
Bosch Dishwasher Film & Detergent Buildup in Dishwasher:
It
is Extremely likely there is not fault of the dishwasher,
specifically, it is more likely that you have the problem
millions others are experiencing, as well.
The
dishwasher is running up to 41/2 to 6 hours, and would
shut off, but you are not used to it running that long,
so you think that it is not working properly...True.
Here
is what is occurring, that you share with millions of
others, and can be solved, if you follow these specific
instructions.
The
water temperature needs to be hotter, much less detergent,
and the use of jet dry.
If
the water temperature is Not hot enough when it goes into
the dishwasher, then the dishwasher is TRYING to heat
it up, and will take upwards to 4 1/2 to 6 hours to do
so, for an entire wash cycle.
The
heater is NOT designed to heat up the water in a dishwasher,
like a coffee pot, but only a one degree a minute heater,
to ASSIST in heating, if the temperature is slightly lower
than 120. The water line is hooked up, for the dishwasher,
under the sink faucet. Most people just start the dishwasher,
and do not run the faucet before, which results in getting(Just
like when you first turn the shower on)cold
water, into the dishwasher, about 70 or so, and maybe
colder in the winter. The thermostat in the Bosch dishwasher
is set at 165 degrees, and the dishwasher will HOLD the
cycle to heat the water up to 165, if it is not hot enough
when it comes in. The heater only heating ONE DEGREE a
minute, means that to heat from 70 degrees to 165 degrees,
it will take 95 MINUTES until is gets the water hot enough
to advance the cycle forward, and it does 3 washes, so
3 times 95 minutes, means 4 1/2 to 6 hours of the dishwasher
running, UNTIL it finishes.
Another
problem that has made this worse, is that the detergent
was drastically increased in concentration, about a year
ago, due to all this ECO push, and it is now, 2X to 6X..up
to 10 times more concentrated, and is causing a white
film buildup, not only on the dishes, but throughout the
Entire dishwasher, pump and tubing, and severely coating
the heater element with rock hard detergent, so it cannot
emit any heat.
Also,
the Phosphates have been either removed, or dramatically
decreased, affecting the water temperature that the New
over-concentrated detergent, demands the water temperature to
be, so the detergent will be dissolved, which is
critical now at a MINIMUM of 120 degrees.
Running the faucet until it is HOT(just
like you do with the shower), BEFORE running he
dishwasher, should get the water temperature
hot enough to Dramatically affect the time the entire
cycle runs(unless you have turned down your water
heater, due to worry about children being scalded, or
to save energy), but as well, will allow the detergent
to start being dissolved, as soon as the dishwasher starts
running, otherwise you are throwing water around, inside
the dishwasher, that is cold water, with detergent, and
it will NOT dissolve, so NO CLEANING it getting done
at all, and causing the heater to TRY to heat the water,
but the heater is all covered up with Dried(concrete hard)
detergent, due to there being 4X to 6X too much being
used, by no fault of your own, but the fault of the manufacturers
NOT LABELING the dishwasher detergent, like they are the
clothes washer detergent, with the 2X, 3X, 4X, up to 6X...and
in the case of the pre-packaged detergents, it ends up
being about 10 times too much detergent, causing so much
sudsing, that you can't get rid of all of the excess detergent,
and you end up with detergent in the rinse water, still,
and rinsing with detergent, Instead of Clear Water, with
Jet Dry in it!
OK, so now you know what is causing the problem, and how things should
be normally.
-Hot
enough water, by running the faucet at the sink, until
the water is Hot...
-The
right amount of detergent, just covering the bottom of
the dispenser, about a tablespoon...and the pre-packaged
ones are about 10 times too much, so do NOT use them anymore,
just any powder or liquid detergent is fine, like Cascade.
-Use
the blue Jet Dry, in the dispenser in the door.
-THEN
start the dishwasher, and run it through a Normal
or Regular cycle(Pots and Pans or Heavy wash cycles are
Not necessary, if you make sure to run the sink until
the water is HOT)...
The
dishes will be spotless and clean again, so your friends
will come back to visit...LOL
Now, another issue, mentioned earlier, about the detergent buildup.
If
you open the dishwasher when it is dry inside, and you
can see a white film all overt the door, and inside
the cavity, especially the strainer and filter area(screens
at the bottom), then you will NEED to get the entire dishwasher
cleaned out, BEFORE you will have success in washing the
dishes.
As
well, if your dishes, especially glassware, appear to
have a white cloudy film, then you will need to address
this also, because inside the dishwasher, pump, tubing
and everywhere, there are Layers of detergent built up,
you cannot see, that will NOT allow the dishwasher to
run properly, and will only contribute to additional detergent
build up, as some of the existing detergent that is dried
up, dissolves over each wash, if the water is Hot enough
now, since you are now ALWAYS running the sink faucet
Before starting the dishwasher.
All
this detergent buildup, layers and layers of it, up to
20 or so layers, needs to be dissolved and cleaned out
of the entire dishwasher, especially in places you Cannot
see, like the pump and hoses and filter housing well.
The ONLY way this is going to get cleaned out, is with a product called
Dishwasher Magic(you can locate a retailer close to you,
on their web site, putting in your zip code)... usually
an ACE Hardware. www.dishwashermagic.com
Vinegar,
or any other product will NOT work, as they are NOT Strong
enough in concentration. It may appear if you use them,
that the inside of the dishwasher is cleaner, or even
clean, but inside the pump and everywhere else, you cannot
see, remember there are layers and layers of concrete
hard detergent buildup, that MUST be dissolved and removed
before the dishwasher will get back to Proper Operation.
DO NOT EVER PUT ANYTHING IN A DISHWASHER YOU WOULDN'T DRINK, AS IT
CAN END UP AS A RESIDUE ON YOUR DISHES IN LATER WASHES,
AND MAKE YOU SICK, OR CAUSE DEATH, DUE TO IT BEING A CAUSTIC
POISON! This include clr, draino, or any other cleaner
you may have an urge to use! DO NOT USE any of them.
Patience & Persistence, is the Key Here:
Customers
have had various amount they have needed to use, from
an average of 4-8 bottles($4.00 a bottle), ONE AT A TIME,
in a complete cycle, to up to 18 bottles!
Take
the bottle of dishwasher magic, unscrew the cap, and you
will Notice a WAX plug in it, that will NOT allow the
liquid cleaner to pour out...DO NOT DIG OUT THE WAX PLUG!!!
Unscrew
the cap, turn the bottle upside down, and put it in the
silverware basket.
Run
the sink faucet until the water is HOT
Run
the dishwasher through a Regular or Normal cycle.
When
the cycle is done, take the dishwasher magic bottle out
and notice if the wax plug melted...IF NOT, THEN YOU NEED
TO TURN UP YOUR WATER HEATER! This is the Test to make
sure you have HOT enough water to dissolve the detergent,
a MINIMUM of 120 degrees! Otherwise, if you do not have
hot enough water, you not only are NOT going to dissolve
the detergent, but you will continue to be building up
detergent, and as well, the cycle is going to last 4 1/2
to 6 hours!
See how all this fits together...
We
can all Thank the detergent manufacturers, for doing this,
increasing the concentration, and NOT LABELING it on the
dishwasher detergent container, so we know to use Much
Less!
Be
patient with this, and you WILL Solve the problem.
Thank
you, Mike
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